#41

Yep… before patch thorn could push 2 off map in 5 seconds. She never needed to, still crushes them in a few more seconds at level one and head Crits for 600+

Back to whiskey foxtrot…
I have used him, he’s at like level 4 right now. So I don’t use him a ton, obviously.

His ultimate is not very satisfying to use. You pretty much need to use it vs someone who is distracted or too big and slow to miss any shots.
If his ultimate rounds were explosive and provided half a meter of aoe that would help a lot vs the fast moving up in your face auto aim skinny characters… like ambra.

Or maybe have the full auto non explosive round shots on right trigger and full auto push back morph accepting shotgun on left trigger, sharing the same ammo pool. Something, right now his ultimate is almost not worth using.

A few other things would be nice to see… putting damage amp from rifle on grenade instead of scrap… putting slow on scrap instead of the nade.

Also if you dont reload before your ultimate you have the longest reload animation I’ve seen on any game in my life after it finishes. I could not believe what I was watching, bug?

I think if you do like whiskey foxtrot you need to wait for the team to pick a tank or two before you select him. I played him during a match where my team had no tanks and(they also sucked) we got pushed so hard that I think we lost at level 3 or 4?

It was awful and no place for a whiskey foxtrot, he just wasn’t the right BB for the job there.

I think I will start to play him a lot more and try to master him… I like to play the difficult yet useful characters.

#42

i have whiskey at lvl 14 but lately ive been struggling , i lay into a guy think im going to secure a kill they either run off or i end up getting an assist i end a game last night i had 2 kills 6 deaths and like 18 assist

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#43

Pretty much. Whenever I play WF I am the assist KING haha.

I really REALLY think his passive needs to trigger on kills AND assists. It would go such a long way to improving WF’s damage output.

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#44

Went through about 10 more games with Burbon, gathered a good feel for him. Generally 5-15 kills 2-5 deaths and a lot of assists, unless my team is really bad and lets them run all the way to the support station while I reload.

Requests:
Bigger mag 25%+
4 round burst helix uses 3 rounds.
Full auto shotgun ultimate.
No changes to damage per shot with rifle, damage per second on ulti, or helix.

Plz n ty.

P.S: That tripple threat napalm is so legit.

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#45

Yazzz, preach my friend.

#46

It’s a balancing act, a harder option should be better when pulled off to properly apply risk-to-reward, but the harder option should always never be guaranteed to be performed regardless of practice, lest easier options be pointless to learn and perform by comparison (eg, if a fighting game character has physically difficult combos that are hard to memorize also has these combos be pretty much unstoppable after you learn them, the other characters are essentially pointless to play in high level games as experienced players of the former character won’t ever display the drawback).

#47

You can cancel the animation by using Scrap Cannon at the end of the ult.

Don’t underestimate the abilty of making a burst fire rifle full auto. Overdrive is fine as it is.

#48

Yeah… you can miss twice as many rounds in half the time!

There is a reason they teach you to shoot machine guns in 5-7 round bursts, and it isn’t just to keep it from overheating. Elite recoil equipment is good for about 15%, which is nothing.

A shotgun at least makes the thing usable vs fast moving skinny targets that might try to rush you.
Not to say you’ll win, but it would at least feel like a fight, instead of, this.

#49

Aim for the pudding (crit spots), his rifle is easy to control when you take the scope.

Scrap Cannon is shotgun-like, but it’s ment to create breathing room. Having that as ult is not good.

#50

Maybe on a pc?

When ever a skinny like ambra gets in my face that doesn’t work at all.

#51

A fully auto shotgun with 100 rounds that has the same fire rate and damage as the regular rifle is a bad idea how?

#52

100 shotgun shells would be broken as hell.

Besides, if you like shooting shotguns so much just play Ghalt. He can go HAM with his ult using double shotguns. Melt faces.

#53

How is it any different from the rifle if it’s the same dps? The only difference is it would be harder to miss and have aoe capability.

Ghalt is a completely different play style. No thank you.

#54

That’s how it’s different from the rifle. With his ult, WF has some of the highest dps in the game. Letting him apply it to multiple people would not be balanced.

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#55

1 word: balance.
Besides, you seem to forget that WF has a skill that allows 3 charges of scrap cannon before CD takes effect.

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#56

1… at no point did I forget about scrap cannon

2… his ultimate is not the highest dps in the game. Maybe if you 100% hit and 100% critical every shot.
I’d trade his ultimate for thorns any day of the week.

#57

According to the Battleborn Bible, WF’s attack damage at level 1 is 32/shot without passive, and his ult makes him attack at 12 shots/sec. If he had his ult at level 1 and landed every shot, he’d be doing 384 dps without his passive, scrap cannon damage amp, or crit. With his passive, he’d be dealing 486 dps, which is the highest raw attack dps in the game. (I admittedly did not factor reload, but the clip is 75 bullets…)

#58

I have played this hero in PVP on a ps4 and man this guy is too hard to play. his recoil is so high thats almost impossible to hit some one on a console. i dont know about the pc though. Also his ability’s do no good damage at all, even if u land them.

#59

Agreed - good character, but mislabeled as “Easy”

#60

His survivability is what wrecks me.
But he’s not terribleeee. I 1v1’d vs my Master of OM buddy on private on Echelon, and I wasn’t garbage even though I only played with Whiskey no more than 10 matches total.

He went 2-4 I went 3-2. (I got him killed by bots)
I took a pair of “goggles” that stack Critical Damage with Critical hits for MAGIC with burst fire.

He decimates Thrall. But its definitely a hard go to land critical hits. As it should be.