Why are/aren't you playing during the Lootpocalypse?

Also, Jythri himself has stated on Reddit that they are looking at some possible bugs affecting the Lootpocalypse drop rates. So, you know…

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Monster hunter generation came out and work among reasons to not be playing during lootpycalpse. Did spend all my credits on loot packs though.Lots of pre own skins and taunts; cool ambra taunt but not the one i wanted though

I’ve been having better luck in Story Mode with the drops than I did before the Lootpocalypse started

Can’t play as much as I’d like to due to a job and being the only one that does things right apparently
Still, been having fun. More drops and discounted loot packs are worth the lack of sleep in my book

He also said that “most of what we’re hearing sounds like the results of random generation”, which means that they’re pretty sure that it’s all in our heads.

The problem that I have with this is that the Lootpocalypse was advertised as having the legendary drop rate “through the roof”. If the increase in drop rate was so low that, for a massive amount of people, random generation means that there’s no noticeable difference in drop rates, the drop rate wasn’t really sent “through the roof”. It’s kind of disingenuous.

Once again, though, the legendary drop rate for this event isn’t really much of a draw to me. The big change is the loot pack cost tweaks because it’s such a massive discount. If the legendary drop rate were as big as the faction pack cost reduction, that could be referred to as “through the roof”. As it stands, if they did increase it, it the increase was too small to notice (as demonstrated by the community as a whole wondering if it even happened).

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Enjoy the game very much so I’m playing regardless
But, loot isn’t any different and I’m getting absolute crap from packs, opened about 30 J packs got 0 legendaries, 1 skin, 0 taunts.
PVE I’m averaging 1 every other mission which was about what I got before, and keep the same damn ones over and over
Been doing Sentinel and Experiment mostly

Either it’s bugged or I have horrendous luck lol

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Wouldn’t you saying something this measured be better than claiming it was the biggest lie you’ve ever heard?

Disagreeing out doubting is perfectly reasonable, hyperbolic language helps no discussion.

Politeness is a forum rule, I would advise you to please adhere to it in the future.

Did you even read what I said? Regardless of the probability, saying that 1 legendary per run was a norm is clearly an anecdotal.

My bad. I can respect that you take the rules as seriously as you do though. Most forums I’ve been on the rules usually aren’t taken all that seriously unless it involves something severe like threatening someone’s life or something.

It’s no bother. We do recognize that we do things a little different here, and understand the need for a bit of wiggle room.

But we do ask that everyone be polite, as it opens avenues for discourse. That and it costs nothing to be kind.

We do thank all of our users who do participate for their understanding.

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Plenty of other people reported similar drop rates. I don’t have access to Gearbox’s numbers and they didn’t release a hard number for what the increase was, so going off what the forums are reporting and what my friends and I are experiencing is all I can do.

And yes, I read what you wrote. I also responded to it by pointing out the increased drop rate was openly advertised by GBX. (And by the way, you called me a liar. How is that not saying I’m wrong?)

I said it in another thread, and Kitru said a similar thing here: for an event that advertised drop rates being “through the roof”, when compared to the already high drop rates of the last two weeks, the drop rates sure seemed to be off.

Of course we’ve now had Jythri say what he said, and in the last hour Joe has confirmed that things have not been working as they’d intended (and they’re looking for what went wrong). So, this is all moot.

Edit: I’m gonna address this anecdote thing a bit more. I said in another thread that I’m aware the reports on the forums and my experience could all just be examples of bad luck. I also said I’d happily admit to such if the devs would let us know what the global drop rate has been. (In light of Jythri and Joe’s comments, I’m willing to bet “not Lootpocalypse levels” is the answer). I’m also aware there can be a selection bias for the people who choose to post about the lackluster drop rate.

All that being said, to simply brush aside all these reports as mere anecdotes is wrong. I didn’t play a single game then come here and proclaim that to be the global drop rate. I played many games, both before and during the event (still playing during the event, actually), and most of the reports I’ve seen on the forums have been roughly the same experience (the average of 1 legendary per run was my personal experience, but from the sounds of it people have been hovering somewhere between .5-1 per run since the permanent increase). The law of large numbers dictates that the more we play, the closer to the global drop rate we should be getting.

It’s not a randomly selected sample from a large data pool, no. But it’s not a couple flimsy anecdotes either.

[quote=“Giuvito, post:49, topic:1541059, full:true”]That and it costs nothing to be kind.
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I costs me calories and increases my allostatic load as I am forced to behave in a civil manner against my will!

/shakefist

(interestingly enough, the whole idea of “letting off steam”, e.g. cathartic release, on a regular basis actually increases your allostatic load, e.g. stress level, over long periods of time, doing the exact opposite of what people think it should do; as such, it’s actually a benefit to yourself in the long term to be kind and not be a jackass; it doesn’t just cost nothing to be kind, it actually pays out health dividends /themoreyouknow)

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Damn those glucocorticoids!

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Most of everything you’ve said has been irrelevant because it doesn’t invalidate what I originally said. The only reason you keep dragging this on is because you keep claiming I called you a liar because you said the drop rates were increased.

What part of “I’m not saying he’s wrong about the drop rate increase” do you not understand? Your response means nothing because despite how many times I’ve said otherwise, it’s based on the implication that I called you a liar because you said the drop rates were increased. The question that came before that statement is a dead giveaway of what I was referring to.

However you meant to say what you think the drop rates are doesn’t change the fact it’s an anecdote. It’s based entirely off of personal accounts made by you and a few other people, as you admitted to in the first paragraph.

I gotta agree with @DevonS3 here.

I honestly think the drop rates depend on which platform your on. I’ve read reports of legendaries rainging from the sky for some people yet that doesn’t seem to be the case here on XB1.

My guess is that instead of bluffing the drop rate that we had up until the lootpocalypse started they buffed the original drop rate which wasn’t much to begin with.

If you compared the original drop rate to the drop rate now it would seem at those legendaries were raining from the sky.

However, with the most recent patch regarding RNG we already had legendaries practically every run and sometimes more, somethings none. Equaling somewhere around a legendary a run.

And yes, calling someone a liar or rather “the biggest lie I’ve ever heard” AKA disagreeing with their statement and calling it false is the same thing as calling them wrong. Yes it is based of of the persons experience but what right do you have to label their experience as false. Take this last part with a grain of salt, I can understand why you would state something of the matter but I personally can’t stand it when someone says they didn’t do something when they clearly did.

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The very first thing you said to me was that the drop rates I’d been having were “the biggest lie you’d ever heard of”. (Never mentioned anything about anecdotes at first either. You’ve been moving goalposts like kids playing hockey in the street.)

The massively increased drop rates were not just noticed by me and “a few other people”.

The seemingly unchanged, or possibly decreased, Lootpocalypse drop rates were also noted by more than just “a few” people. Go ahead and search the forums.

Anyway, for everyone’s sake, but mostly mine, I’m done with this conversation. It started out bad, has been completely fruitless since, and I’ve got better things to do. (Especially since it looks like people’s suspicions have been confirmed by Joe and the devs at this point.)

I’m not the one claiming to know what the drop rates are based on anecdotal evidence. All I said was regardless of the percentage the rate will be different for everyone. This is why anecdotal evidence is unreliable. And now here you are using it to claim the rate is based on platform? What reason do I have to not take everything said with a grain of salt?

You didn’t specify yourself, you just said getting 1 legendary per run was the norm.

Forum posters make up a huge minority of the people playing a game, much less people who are frequent posters so yes, in that context, it’s only a few.

Also note that you started this by trying to invalidate my first post with anecdotal evidence, which never made sense to begin with because what I said was true regardless of what the situation is with the lootpocalypse.

You’re insane. I’m done here too.

I “started this”? What? I did not try to invalidate anything you said. All I did was ask if you’d been playing during the pre-Lootpocalypse Lootpocalypse, then gave some numbers (numbers that plenty other people were experiencing) to add to the overall picture.

I asked a question out of curiosity, and up to this point I have been polite (unlike you), I haven’t been condescending (unlike you), I have responded to your concerns about anecdote (I stand by my argument regarding this, by the way) and you’re going to pull the schoolyard tactic of “he started it”!?

I know I said I was done, but I have poor impulse control, and this is just so out of left field I had to respond. Go troll someone else please.

Done.

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Done indeed. For any further personal discussions or disputes please change to PM, this has been going on long enough now. You both made your points, you both said its done, so lets call it a day.

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