Why are people so mean?

It seems backward to me, I’d have thought premades would be the last people who wanted to do a bot match, whereas it would encourage people from the PVE side of things to try a game mode they maybe avoid, maybe for the same reasons touched upon by the OP.

All you can do Is improve, some games a die a lot as well but the guys I play with don’t mind too much. Some people are just uneccesarily nasty and it says a lot about their character if they go far enough to slag someone who they don’t even know off. Fair enough sometimes dying a lot can contribute to the loss of a match but at the end of the day one team has to lose. The more you die the more you’ll learn about other players tactics and what to do and what not to do :slight_smile:

Well I think in situations like this both sides are at fault to a certain extent. You have to understand that for a large number of people who play pvp games, winning is where they have “fun”. No one wants their time wasted and for people who want to win, someone feeding and making that almost impossible can be annoying. Should they be cursing you? Probably not. Do they have the right to be upset with you? Yes, to some extent. I don’t think there is particularly good advise to give you. I can say, play with bots to have fun or get some practice (but maybe you don’t want to even get better), or try and set up private games with friends. None of these are good practical suggestions though.

The other problem is proper matchmaking and lack of rank mode. Adding rank mode and improving matchmaking to match similarly skilled individuals together can help separate people who just want to have “fun” and those who are more competitive.

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because its never there fault they lost blame someone else. they were never new ofc they were “pro” from the start. the other person should just magically know what to do without actually gaining experience.
anyways this is why i mute people from the start of the match and turn off my mic when i que with randoms. :kissing_smiling_eyes: communicating does help sometimes sure but id rather enjoy the game then deal with peoples negativity.

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Nothing stops the screaming like unplugging the mike, just play it by ear.

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There’s a very good reason you are being screamed at, and it is because you are apparently committing the cardinal sin of mobas repeatedly, that is to say:

You are feeding the enemy team. This directly harms your team. It’s perfectly fine to be bad at killing the enemy, but it’s not acceptable to give them kills.

Every time you die you make them stronger.

It cannot be stressed enough. Do. NOT. Die.

If combat isn’t your forte, avoid players, clear minions, farm shards to craft buildables, starve the enemy, and send elite minions. You can clear thrall camps.

You do not have to fight players to be an asset to your team.

What you are doing is being a total liability and then avoiding responsibility by blaming it on your own lack of skill.

Well, I’ll tell you one thing. It takes no skill to break shards.

So enough coddling. There are things you can do. Stop making excuses for one. Stop dying. Build for your team. Do not die. Do NOT die.

Surprise! No one has a good reason to yell at you anymore AND you are now a much needed asset for any team.

You can thank me later

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@ana I agree with everything you just said however I still don’t think that warrants his teammates screaming at him. Instead his team should’ve been supportive and explained things like you just did.

It’s what being in a team is all about. You help each other. I’m a fairly experienced player but I’m still learning new strategies from my teammates every day. It’s one of the main reasons why I love this game.

Hey @down32shot, if you’re on PS4 feel free to join my community ‘Battleborn Forumites’. I’d be happy to help you learn the ropes.

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There is never a reason to be nasty to other people in an online game, no matter how badly they are playing. Lord, there isn’t an excuse for being nasty in a team operating a nuclear reactor. It doesn’t help. You should respect other players, or else not participate in a team game. Having recently got a lot of teaching experience under my belt I can say with certainty getting angry or sarcastic does no good. If you want them to do better, give advice respectfully.

I agree with everyone above who says you should ignore it - it’s never worth taking what people say online seriously. But I also feel really sympathetic if you do get upset after abusive online comments, because there are times when what I have received in online games (whether it’s a comment on my playing, or something sexist / threatening) have made a game a really unpleasant place to be.

I get very involved in my gaming at times so I understand why people get passionate about it and want to win. But it’s only a game. That things don’t always go your way, that people make mistakes, and that they don’t play spectacularly is not a reason to be cruel or a bully. That’s not looking out for your team. It’s just disgusting.

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So I paid for a player vs player experience and your advice is to avoid that experience in preference to running around collecting shards, building stuff and killing mindless bots, I think I’d rather play minecraft.

How do you ever get better at something without practice?

What is so bad about losing a match? It’s a game, try playing it for fun and not seeing it as some life achievement.

Are you being yelled at by someone with a mic? I turned the voice options down to avoid this but dosn’t help text, keep at it and try your hardest not to let em get to you, alot harder to do then say i know

I merely stated that their reaction was understandable.

I never said it was appropriate.

I do however disagree with anyone saying they should be expected to stop in the middle of a heated match to tell him what I did.

And you cannot expect people to be accomodating to inconsiderate players who wish to use a public match as practice fodder.

You are essentially saying they exist to serve your needs.

“Screw the team”.

You are wrong. Your 60 dollars is not special.

People play to win. I just told you how even the worst player can contribute.

Expect straight malice if you took what you just said into a public match.

Why do I need to tell people what to expect as consequence?

It’s common sense.

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Because online gaming its for Leets only bro!.. … … … … … … … i can’t take myself seriously after that…
Again leads to the whole there needs to be a ranked area so the hardcores can go and hardcore yell at each other like workout people at the gym “GO GO HARDER, PUSH!”. I personal never found it worth the time to yell at someone ingame, and the only time i react is if they badmouth my gf then i growl.

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I understand that people play to win… But if a person can’t do that without being able to cope calmly with losing, and treats losing as a reason to abuse (new) players, then public gaming really isn’t for them. The fact that something is competitive doesn’t give a right to abandon respect for another person.

Being a new player isn’t the same as entering a game to deliberately wreck a team’s chances (which in my experience rarely happens). Games like Battleborn are obviously going to have less skilled players, and I personally like that older online games still do, because it keeps a community alive and active. I think it’s great when experienced players who obviously care about the game are willing to help new players. I don’t think anyone has to do this, but I don’t think veterans have a right to just abuse new players who are doing badly without offering to help them improve. What’s to be gained from that?

Don’t want to tutor them? Don’t. Want to swear at them and attempt to degrade them? That’s awful. Don’t. I’ll stand by this even if it earns me disdain in an online community.

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What @intimes and @hakkairu said: Give the headset a rest. And learn by watching, thinking and doing instead.

Example: I am rank 50 atm, 90% of it (l)earned in PVP because I do not enjoi re-grinding PVE again and again and again even if the PVE way rewards with more xp (and with the double xp bonus going on since yesterday, and with any luck, I’ll be rank 100 by next week).

And in not 1 of those PVP or PVE matches have I ever used a headset.

This pointed out not to bang my own drum, but to show you there are successfull alternatives to letting evil peoples into your ears and mind.

I merely stated that their reaction was understandable.

I never said it was appropriate.

But it is acceptable?

And you cannot expect people to be accomodating to inconsiderate players who wish to use a public match as practice fodder.

What other option do people have?

You are essentially saying they exist to serve your needs.

“Screw the team”.

Never said anything of the sort.

People play to win. I just told you how even the worst player can contribute.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but maybe they should learn to have fun regardless of the outcome, it’s not like you actually get anything substantial from a win.

Expect straight malice if you took what you just said into a public match.

I do.

Why do I need to tell people what to expect as consequence?

Not sure what you mean, please clarify.
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I thought it was a good idea. He could start off as a fairly easy character like Oscar Mike, farm bots/shards and defend the sentry. You don’t have to play offensively in this game.

This plus a few PvE games would probably give OP enough survival skills to stop dying as often. Not everyone is used to FPS or proficient at it enough to start off by running in and blasting other players away.

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Vital difference here is that you have said defend the sentry, not hide from the enemy.

I’ll concede @ana made some good points, maybe the delivery could do with some fine tuning, or I need to simmer down, or both.

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Unfortunately, that’s not just this game. That’s all PVP games with voice chat. Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, all have the same problem.

People come to games to blow off steam, and sometimes that steam gets blown in your direction. Try not to get burned by it.

I’ve found an effective coping method to be countering hate with silliness and taking sick pleasure in listening to the “leet” player get more and more frustrated with my inane ramblings. That and singing. Oh, god do they hate my singing. But why oh why should I let their bad attitude ruin my fun?

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING… SINGING THE SONG OF ANGRY MEN… IT IS THE MUSIC OF A PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE SLAVES AGAIN…

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