#36

I filled in that blank haha!

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#37

@ckx00000

:joy::joy::joy:

#38

There were more than team working on it. Gearbox proper, gearbox Montreal, 2k had a team, 3 different QA teams. Honestly with the amount of serious issues this go around it kind of makes sense.

Gearbox Montreal didn’t even exist until just before Battleborn was released. Then you had gearbox proper finishing the Claptrap dlc for the pre-sequel. Along with the Battleborn proper and dlc.

Honestly, they wouldn’t have been able to do two work on it before then.

Note that I think about it, Montreal is ■■■■ for development. Aren’t they the ones that jacket up mass effect also?

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#39

Mass Effect Andromeda disaster was caused by Bioware’s Montreal studio, Gearbox Montreal didn’t work on it. Not even the same publisher, Gearbox is owned by 2K now I think, BioWare is owned by EA. EA closed BioWare Montreal after the mess they made of Andromeda.

We sure have had a lot of AAA flops this gen, many of which resulted in the laying off of devs and sometimes even the closing of whole studios:

  • Mass Effect Andromeda (BioWare Montreal closed)
  • Agents of Mayhem (developed by a secondary team at Volition, secondary team was laid off after the game flopped)
  • Battleborn (flopped, but no staff laid off as far as I know)
  • Dead Rising 4 (flopped, new IP they were developing for years cancelled and Capcom Vancouver closed)
  • Evolve (flopped, Take Two CEO claimed it was a success and would become a permanent franchise for the company, but analysts claim that was a lie, with the game selling just 2.5m copies, low for a AAA, and no sequel has been announced 4 years later, with the developer working on a new game for another publisher)
  • Alien Isolation (sold just 2m copies, low for a AAA and below Sega’s expectations, plans for a sequel cancelled by Sega and many members of the dev team laid off)
  • Deus Ex Mankind Divided (though not technically a flop, it sold less than Human Revolution and below Square Enix’s expectations, plans for a sequel put on hold due to Square acquiring the license to work on Marvel games)
  • Hitman 2 (apparently sold 1/10th the number of copies that Hitman Absolution sold 1st week, unsure of sales picked up later on)
#40

You misunderstood my point. I said Montreal developers. Not a specific one. As in all Montreal developers suck.

Gearbox is a private company. It is not owned by 2k.

#41

Don’t forget that Ubisoft’s main studio is in Montreal, with a whopping 3,700 employees, nearly a quarter of Ubisoft’s 16,000 employees. I believe it is the 2nd largest game development studio in the world, 2nd only to Blizzard, who has 4,700 developers. Ubisoft has a fairly unique development structure, with the majority of games they develop being led by a core team at the main Montreal studio, assisted by multiple teams at their many splinter studios.

Other noteworthy studios in Montreal include Eidos (Deus Ex), Behaviour (Dead by Daylight), Warner Bros Montreal (developing the next Batman Arkham game), and Bethesda Montreal (assisting the main studio with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6). So Montreal isn’t all bad in terms of game development.

#42

I’m sorry but all of those developers release buggy shazzy games. The only good one is Ubi who tend to fix their stuff, way late. I respect it, but would respect them more of they just released a game that didn’t need a minimum of 6 months worth of patches.

Yes, I’m being pretty serious about it, no I don’t think all Montreal developers are tush stains, as there are several who were forced to relocate for work ;-p

#43

I never had any problems with bugs playing Ubisoft or Eidos games personally, on console, and Deus Ex Human Revolution ran fine on my PC. I hear Ubisoft PC ports are a mess though.

#44

100% it failed.

Doesn’t mean it was bad. It just wasn’t going to be able to stand on its own two IP-feet because it wasn’t Borderlands.

I think about it and I’m very sad. I think there was a lot of Battleborn that I like batter than Borderlands 3.

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#45

Two words. Randy Pitchford.

That dude is legit crazy.

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#46

I can see what you mean but… MY EYEESSS OHH WHYYY.

I REGRET EVERYTHING -except for tiny tina she was cool.

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#47

I think Battleborn’s main issue was the visuals, particle effects often cluttered the screen, and there were some balance issues with certain characters far outclassing others.

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#48

I’m so glad I was sitting down when I read this. I never imagined Borderlands having right wing conservative fans.

Well…kinda cool, I guess.

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#49

That would be “Hey Ash Whatcha Playin’” and it’s still out there on youtube. Some of the episodes are mediocre, some of them risk snorting coke onto the keyboard (soda pop, not anything alcoholic 'cause none of us drink n 'net, right?).

Really warped, and really delightful.

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#50

The word you are looking for is “painful”

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#51

You think a game with tons of guns where you fire guns and the galaxy’s biggest companies sell guns and you solve every problem with guns wouldn’t have any right wing fans?

I beg to differ.

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#52

Good point. And a game with such rampant sexuality and powerful female characters, especially now with a non-binary individual would attract the extreme left.

Clearly the universe of Borderlands is a wonderland where there is something for everyone!

Buttstallion Lives!!

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#53

Trying to be a writer in a 2019 world for something thats meant to be offensive such as borderlands or any other “riskay” kind game/movie has to be a rough job. It can make you a hero and you did your job well or be viewed horribly by public media and ruin your whole career.

Online reviews and such and political correctness groups have really sucked the fun out of alot of games and made them very tame. Look at Mortal Kombat 11. No more mileena ninjas and half-wardrobes, even the godfather of mature rated games has changed outfits on characters to appeal to women activist ■■■■. One of my good friends is pissed at Mortal Kombat for taking away the sexy outfits but 10x the number of her are glad they are gone. Goes to show you making a mature rated game in 2019 is not what it used to be you’ll have people trying to take your jobs for making anything they find offensive.

Luckily Indie Developers are stepping up, they dont have a mega corporation to lose over politcal incorrectness.

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#54

People really try to fish for ■■■■ that’s not there. It’s been years, people move on for various reasons. Some personal, some for bigger fish and so on.

Believe it or not having some position at 2K and Borderlands series is not a pinnacle of the career path for talented people with hunger for more. People seem to be shocked that creators don’t devote their whole lives to some niche title.

It’s your usual small game at the bigger boys league, just like you are not sitting at same place for 5 year plus, so they don’t.

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#55

You’re totally right. I feel like it’s an america thing that doesn’t really exist in other game companies in Europe . Like your political views has anything to do with your game ? That’s straight up ■■■■■■■■, influence of any kind exists everywhere and depends of time and space. There’s all kind of crazies in Borderlands, it’s chaos and largely influenced by Mad max. I don’t see anybody insulting philosophes, writers that were communist or racist like Lovecraft, hell everybody loves their works and thesis. Even when a group of writers are together, it doesn’t mean it will be a better story than a single writer; novels are the perfect example of it, almost the entirety of european classics were written by one writer per one novel and their works are a lot more difficult to analyze and more complex than modern novels. In you haven’t done all-round literature studies, you will probably never truly get a grasp of most stories you read; literacy criticism also brings higher levels of understanding. If you keep all of this in mind, it’s no wonder people can struggle writing a story together even if it’s their job and they’re “intelligent” each in their own way.