Why I feel Galz/Rath are still too strong in PvP

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#6

I think Rath is an easy char. It can be either a killing machine or a hold back for the team. I personally only had problems with Raths when I started playing, then it went away. They are kind of squish and if you keep your distance (while playing meele char it wonā€™t have much trouble)>
Gaulth does insane dmg with trap+pull+shots, I have been killed by gaults in like a rotation having like 3k health on a kelvin while I did very minor damage. he seems really strong, but I wouldnā€™t say OP. Only times I really had a problem fighting gaults were when he had other support classes.

I personally think supports are broken. A team who has a healer or a shielder usually have a large advantage over a team that do not have one. I think in a game like this, ppl shouldnā€™t be forced to play supports, but whatever they like to be competitive.

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#7

I agree. I love playing Boldur and Thorn. Playing thorn I have very minor issues with meele chars tbh.

#8

congratz first person i have seen say this xD now the galā€™s will know what im doing. its like with ghalts hook. i always step right, easiest way to dodgecant rely on that though tbh, easy to predict

#9

i think ppl r afraid to give up their edge but literally not giving counter out will ruin the game and ppl will cry for buffs when they really r just uninformed.

#10

Rath isnt an issue imo. If his ult is on cooldown is when you should attack.

#11

No, people should not get to play what they likeā€¦ This is a team based game, the key word being ā€œteamā€ā€¦ If your team is lacking support, then someone should take that role to support your team, or you already have a disadvantage to the opposite team if they have oneā€¦ If youā€™re playing with random PUGā€™s and are always losing, I can guarantee it is usually down to your team compositionā€¦

My only reason to give this reply to you, was the last sentence in your reply.

#12

What do you mean. Gallilea letā€™s her side push an enemy team back to spawn. She can go invisible to avoid Thumper on retreat along with all her other ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  cc and damage skills.

#13

Rath has no projectile, has to be in the middle of the foray or catching players off guard . Basically the only way to be effective is up close where even using CS , you can lose track of your opponent with the knock up. At the start , he is a surprisingly slow character when opponent can break out in a full sprint to get away even when you are in their face hacking away . Plus the screen is filled with whoever you are battling up in front of you so situational awareness is highly limited and exposes you to flanking. No spin would severely handicap this character imho.

#14

Brett for one she goes underground not invis. And 2 you can still damage her. And honestly if a gala is using her ult to position herself to a thumper its a suicide run.

#15

None of that has any influence whatsoever in this discussion. Spinning melee is hugely advantageous in wave clearing. You gotta focus the shepherd first, but gali and rath focus shepherd and kill all the other minions in doing so. Gali spin should be a helix.

#16

And again this is a closed minded suggestion. Gala spin is OP because it can clear waves? Well gess guess ISIC shouldnt be allowed to fire mini guns a cannon and multiple missles in siege mode that never endsā€¦ Or Mike shouldnt have an AOE napalm that can clear waves AND not be taking damage while doing so. Or hey lets ditch the thorn aoe poison. Smh thinking melee spin attacks are OP for wave clear is simply dumb to suggest

#17

I dont think you know what closed minded means. So in other words, a Pusher shouldnt have push power but your melee tank should because reasons? Got it. Your comparisons are pointless and you suggest no reason for them, theyā€™re basically random ā€œtake things from other peopleā€ rants. Constant melee AoE makes wave clearing and therefor farming and leveling up extremely easy. But i guess thats what you want, an easy EASY character. And by the way, you cant hurt gali during her ult http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/276221328441066185/2FB0A84E0EE9364081EC682CBCA3AF95B74AE29B/ tested, AoE did nothing.

#18

sheā€™s not a tankā€¦and the tank will usually win a fight if lvls r close. Montana and attikus will wrech her if they r the same lvl and specā€™d for dmg per sec. Gali was really goodā€¦now sheā€™s just kinda goodā€¦and i could kill her in the beta 1v1, at launch 1v1 and now 1v1 with attikus. Itā€™s all about the gearā€¦gali is easy b/c the gear to use is obviousā€¦but that doesnā€™t make her opā€¦and her melee combo is fineā€¦with the spin. Plus if your on a smart team with miko or reyna healing a tank and destroying her every time she comes marching down the center of the battlefield. I want someone to tank for me and iā€™ll butter them up with reynaā€¦then youā€™ll see how little she is really capable of.

#19

Shes classified as a Defender, and has a shield and sustain abilities. Dont put too much importance on ā€˜Rolesā€™, Tobyā€™s role is Adorable Territorial. A lot is about gear, all attack speed gear benefits her more than most characters. What makes her OP is a special blend of ā€œeverythingā€ and a dash of ā€œelseā€. I imagine an Attikus could beat herā€¦if he initiates. If she initiates you, youā€™re dead. Because 2 second stun and 1100DPS (now reduced by 18%! still more than attikus)
ā€œI beat up newbie gali playersā€ stories not withstanding, shes still the top pick or top ban in all current scrims because good players know just how powerful she is.

#20

Tbf Rath spin is the only good thing he got and great for players who are starting out.

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#21

I hate rath, think heā€™s boring and donā€™t enjoy playing him at all. However, the only thing I know is overpowered about him is when he knocks up into spin and I get stuck on his head so I canā€™t land ever to react to it. doesnt happen all the time but it sucks.

#22

Went 14/1 iirc against a Rath earlier today as Toby; felt good :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Have only just started using Toby so am not sure yet if it was an inexperienced player or just luck lol. A few kills were when he would kill a team member and idle to taunt :imp:

I mean obviously I was firing at him from range while he was concerned with other things butā€¦ still felt good (especially kills using the slowing arc mine) :sunglasses:

#23

While Iā€™m ok with them functionally, I do agree that the spin attacks are making a big impact. If Iā€™m a melee character and I try to help someone fight Rath / Galilea then I better start with a skill or else itā€™s just two of us dying at the same time instead of one. Now correct me if Iā€™m wrong but every melee character can hit multiple enemies at once if they are all bunched up right? Like Kelvin can hit three minions if they are all right in front of him kind of thing? As long as that is the case then I donā€™t think itā€™s too unfair, Phoebe seems to have the least room for error but she has the true strike which is pretty easy to land.

#24

Every character has the capacity to hit multiple targets at once. Attikus has his Hedronic arc, Phoebe has her True Strikes mutation, and Kelvin has his knockback secondary attack. Rath/Galz are the only two which have it as part of their primary combo and while I donā€™t necessarily feel itā€™s unfair I do feel it gives them an advantage from the start and makes them much easier to use.

#25

I forgot Kelvinā€™s ground pound, it actually seems to hurt pretty decently too from what Iā€™ve played. Itā€™s got a nice ā€œget out of my faceā€ quality, kind of like Attikus knocking big enemies back occasionally.

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