With BL3 being a long way off how about a new expansion DLC for TPS to tie us over

Your unfettered love for Gearbox, devotion to everything they do.

And you know that because…

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Basically every post you have ever made

Wow. I never knew you were such a fan of my posts. Even I haven’t read them all.

So because I have an opinion that differs from yours, I’m a zealot?

I don’t think this is going to end well, unless you read the rules immediately.

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Well there it is, I have shown my secret love for you.

I am just answering your questions.

Please check my edit above. Or should we take this to pms?

If you read the Battleborn section, you would see plenty of suggestions, frustrations, and ideas for how to make the game better from people who are still fans of the game. Hell, I was complaining about Chaos Rumble this week. You just seem to be pissed that people are enjoying a game that I doubt you’ve even touched.

@Psychichazard I’m trying to remain within the rules here, let me know if I’m crossing any lines.

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Yup, I think it’s time to take this to really very polite pms.

Everyone let’s remember to talk about the game and not each other.

Also the OP doesn’t have anything to do with battleborn, so back on topic please.

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Don’t get me wrong I loved the humor, there were just certain elements in it I wasnt crazy about.

If u don’t like battleborn, this is not the place to discuss it. We all have opinions, so please refrain from expressing yours like yours is right and ours is wrong. Everyone has their own opinions and just because ours is different doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

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Now could we stay away from any other game but borderlands. If anyone has a complaint about battleborn or something, take it to that section

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Even just one more DLC for BL2 on par with TTAoDK would most likely generate more revenue than was generated by Battleborn along with all its DLC and also cost a damn sight less too. It really makes a lot of sense financially and would make a hell of a lot of Gearbox fans happy.

Same here though I would love to see another DLC for either BL 2 or TPS.

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i love borderlands and i dont like battleborn
that does not mean battleborn is a bad game, i (me) just dont like it
so until borderlands 3 i just have to play another game

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Maybe Gearbox could just rescript and revoice the more cringe-inducing dialogue (I’m looking at you Pickle)

Maybe.

How many people would notice it at this point? How many would buy it? Would it also be available for the 360 and ps3 users still? or only PC, Xbone, and PS4?

The biggest problem is they stopped expanding BL2 for a lot of reasons but mostly because of limitations within the game engine and console size restrictions.

TPS has room to expand there, but I think they would be afraid of a low return on investment at this point. Sadly.

Let’s face it. TPS effectively was the thing to tide us over until BL3. I loved it. It needed just a little more content but it was fantastic otherwise.

Battleborn’s mechanics and structure are similar to Borderlands so i want to mention it. But some of it’s differences turn me off a little bit. So when I feel like playing Borderlands style games it will still be TPS, BL1 or BL2. I consider Battleborn different enough to not lump it into that category. Mainly, in Borderlands, I love being able to save out mid mission and things I’ve done for a mission are still checked when I come back in and where I am (to the map at least). I guess you could call it world/character persistence. Backpacks of gear to manage is fun too. I like this more freeform structure and enjoy being able to make progress on things within minutes instead of 30 to 60 minute chunks. Anyhow. Main point, Battleborn feels more like a Destiny/Street Fighter blend to me. Which is great. But when I feel like Borderlands, it’s Borderlands. When I feel more like Destiny/Battleborn, it’s Battleborn.

For me, it’s never about the PVP anymore anyhow. So Overwatch to me is an FPS that’s missing 95% of the game (because I’d only buy it if it had a single player campaign). Battleborn is well rounded to me. Both PVE and PVP but my preference is PVE there. Even still, Battleborn swayed me over to the PVE modes more than I thought it would.

But, a couple other things happened this year that has me playing Battleborn less. Doom came out and it revisits my first FPS love very well. So I have been enjoying every mode in that. Campaign, level design, coop, and pvp.

Secondly, someone I was playing Battleborn with introduced me to 7 days to die. Which has for me, backpack management, exploration, ā€œlevel/base designā€, coop, monster hunting/defense, world persistence, and loot hunting. So I think from that standpoint, it’s my current ā€œwaiting for Borderlands 3ā€ game considering that I do many of those things in Borderlands.

All that said, I would certainly buy TPS DLC for up to 30 or 40$. Depending on what it was. Or I’d buy another Borderlands spinoff like TPS. I’d love it and I would automatically make it my top played game. But it does seem like it would likely take developers away from creating BL3 content.

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Borderlands is strong in aspects both Battleborn and Overwatch are not and that is the sense of adventure. The PVE aspects of Battleborn look like a tack on to what is essentially at its core a PVE game. I think the problem Battleborn faced was it was a game trying to please two different types of people at the same time and the compromises it faced in doing so caused neither type of gamer to adhere to it. Some players are happy with this mixed experience but I think most like pretty specific styles of gameplay. The thing with PVE games like Borderlands is that you need a bigger game overall to stave off boredom with doing the same old thing. BL & BL2 achieved this but TPS fell quite short. If it was give another good DLC I am sure a lot of people would return (there are actually +5x more consistently playing TPS than BB, +25x playing BL2 and 3x playing Borderlands) if they made enough content for people to stay. Having something new to do while the lead up to BL3 happens would draw a lot of attention back for the launch of BL3. The old saying goes ā€œJack of all trades and master or noneā€ and I think this relates to Battleborn which is a good solid game but nothing special in any one area. TPS still has some legs in it.

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So…split their resources (which are already split between fulfilling DLC content for Season Pass owners of Battleborn, the other games I don’t really know much about, and pre-production on Borderlands 3, yes, despite what a lot of fans seem to think, they are already working on it) even further so they can create more filler content on 2 games that are probably using development tools they have long since replaced with better ones that don’t work with the old stuff with a short turn around to keep Borderlands-only fans happy because they didn’t like Battleborn?

Seriously think on that for a moment…

Even if they were to start on brand new BL2/TPS content today, it would be at least 6-12 months (AT LEAST) before you would see anything. Battleborn hasn’t even been out for a full 6 months yet and the Season Pass content; which has been in development as far back as the beginning of 2016 (@Jythri or someone else is welcome to correct me if I am I wrong); is only just starting to all come out now.

In turn, that would also push development time for Battleborn Season Pass content AND Borderlands 3 even further out unless they outsourced the work to another studio, which is exactly what they did for TPS. The result? 2K Australia was shut down (likely unrelated to TPS, because Australia Tax just plain sucks) and planned DLC content for TPS got cancelled due to the less than stellar reception the game got. I haven’t fact checked this, so I’m not 100% on the specifics…

The best way people can support a game developer is to buy and play all their games, even if some aren’t arguably as great as others. By lashing out at the developers and talking trash about them and the decisions they have made online, ā€œfansā€ are effectively adding development time/costs to any future sequels they might create (if they are still around to make them).

We only have indie devs in Australia and having a game fail can result in a company having to close their doors. People might argue that a AAA company is big enough to be able to stave off closure, but that is so not the case! Keep treating your game devs like ā– ā– ā– ā–  and they might one day just not be around anymore. :sweat:

My advice to anyone who feels like this and doesn’t want to play Battleborn? Play Destiny. Before it came out, I clocked 2000+ hours in Borderlands 2, transitioned over to Destiny for 2 years (playing TPS for a bit when it came out) and I have gradually shifted between it and Battleborn for most of this year. I’m sure there are other games you can play with similarities to Borderlands and there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing other things. No one is forcing anyone to only play Borderlands and nothing else!!

The devs do want you guys to have fun and play their games, but they can’t just magically pump out new content in such a short period of time. It doesn’t work like that :confused:

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As much as I’d like to have more endgame-stuff for TPS, its not just extremely unlikely to happen, it would be just very inefficient to create anything for a game that’s over 2 years old and had its last major dlc 18 months ago.

I can wait for a new Borderlands-title and I am willing to wait, cause there are plenty of good games out there to play. I for one, am waiting for Final Fantasy XV and will put alot of time in it. So, even if one dislikes Battleborn, there is enough to play instead of Borderlands.

I just hope that gearbox/2K have learned what the core-fanbase wants from a Borderlands-title. They made huge mistakes on TPS’s design-choices - non-farmable bosses, unfarmable legendaries, lowered mob-density and way to little endgame-content like raids or circles of slaughter - and I guess that was what killed the game before it even had a chance to show its potential.
TPS should be a lesson of good gameplay and bad design to show gearbox and 2K how to do it better!

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