This aswell, could’ve easily asked brick to borrow a Buzzard.
I’ll remember it for the next time.
I think the first was done to allow you to farm BNK-3R.
ACNAero
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#203
I know. But why not fly around it and turn it off yourself? I’m sure they can figure out how to press a button.
And make Clappy feel even more useless?
You heartless bastard 
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What if you need a Hyperion authorization to turn it off?
An authorization from a robot.
ACNAero
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#208
Fly Clappy around the wall with you. :P.
But he can’t turn it off without the upgrade.
ACNAero
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#210
So it took farming to make Blood’s death make sense. 
ACNAero
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#212
But from a story stand point… What then? Fly around the wall, trek up the mountain if need be, and reach Bunker. No Blood death or Clappy upgrade required because they’ll never go back there.
About Lilith Falcon Punch, I think that she thought that the symbols explosion would be enough to destroy Jacks mind. I dont know.
Also, she isnt dumb to stay and fight 4 VH at the same time. She wasnt eating eridium at the time if I remember correctly so no God like powers.
About Rolands death, I dont know what to think about. Lilith rushed right after and Jack got her. Jack was using she as a shield and weapon, what should they do? Lilith just phase blasted them back to Sanctuary.
There is no fast reaction, they got caught by surprise for the situation.
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ACNAero
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#214
But Krieg, Deathtrap, and Axton’s turret(s) wouldn’t care! xD That’s the issue.
He talks to you for a good 5 or so seconds before picking up Lilith, enough time for any of the above characters to attack.
Hell, if anything, Axton’s training would mean that he responds within half a second max!
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Story wise Claptrap wasnt in Angel’s Chamber and Axtons Turret has time to be deployed. The scene was after the battle, maybe it was on cooldown time. (?)
Axton training would mean that he have to analyze the situation.
Also, Krieg has his inner voice.
Lil was under Jacks control. Everything they could throw at Jack would hit her too. They didnt want it.
OK, Zer0 can be invisible, but so can Jack. If a battle happened there it would be the same as the final battle. For what? Make the game shorter?
Also, I dont know if we could beat Jack using Lilith powers as a weapon.
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ACNAero
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#218
But his inner voice only stops him from killing civilians. Otherwise, he doesn’t stop the physical body from charging rocket launcher wielding enemies head on. Why would he not charge Jack who has nothing more than a pistol?
We know it’s to make the game longer. The arguments are from a storytelling stand point and a logic standpoint.
Why wouldn’t Deathtrap be in there? He digistructs from Gaige’s arm. Not like he wouldn’t be out during the fight.
Oh, Deathtrap. I did read Claptrap, sorry! My bad.
Also, I stand my point about they thinking in Lil safety. Deathtrap would slice her with Jack, the same way Krieg could explode both of them.