megadethwm
(Cults scare the sh*t out of me)
#9
I’m a little confused.
Aside from his blue tree which I only put 11 into for my CCC builds, the second half of his skill trees all seem about survivability and quality of life.
flightx3aa
(ThiccFilA)
#10
Calm cool and collected is one of Zane’s best and most consistent builds and only actually sacrifices the scaled violent momentum damage because of not picking up supersonic man, violent speed, or sliding around as your playstyle. You could just put on a slide speed relic and get some of that damage back though.
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kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#11
Personally I skip Donnybrook and Sync both in my CCC build. I max Violent Speed and Momentum both, and I max Nerves of Steel which does a lot more then a lot of you realize. I do not suffer low DPS against COV in M4. There is not always just one way to do things and this way of thinking and talking about Zane detracts from his actual issues.
And here is @studdugie 's example of using Donny/Sync and not Violent Move/Speed to beat COV Slaughter on M4 with a CCC build.
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flightx3aa
(ThiccFilA)
#12
Good that is very cool, I also don’t use donnybrook, but I think synchro is too worth it. Also I don’t use nerves of steel, instead I use barrier anointments on my weapons lol. So I do know the value in those skills, I just don’t think it’s worth it for the small bonuses they add.
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kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#13
Yeah I run SNTL cryo anoints on all my weapons if possible (if I have them). Otherwise I do like a barrier anoint for it. I take borrowed time in my build because I only have 5 points left for that tree and for me it’s worth it to aid in keeping my AS up when I’m missing crits, instead of a bit more damage.
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flightx3aa
(ThiccFilA)
#14
Yah usually my go to was always sntnl anoint for everything, but the barrier anoint is underrated by most. I only like it on specific guns, my favs are the maggie and crossroads. I just found out about a gun it’s insane on and works exactly how you want it to - the dictator. So I can’t wait to actually try that one out since I was already using dictator with ccc.
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DSGrant
(GT: Mournblood)
#15
Solo MT on M4 can be done with CCC (just not by me).
https://youtu.be/4GXgmrkUgxg
Credit goes to @flightx3aa on this video.
kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#16
Yeah I been using Dictator with SNTL cryo, but as mentioned I take 3/3 NOS. It’s amazing for any tough COV mob. I do have a Dictator with the Barrier anoint and you are right, it puts all 7 bullets into 3 hit spots, its amazing.
Here is a SS I took of the effect.
megadethwm
(Cults scare the sh*t out of me)
#17
My Zane uses a rough rider CCC build and it does great. Given the state of anointments and how barrier is the only game changing action skill he has for a team event. The drone gives nifty buffs and the clone can be great with certain guns but I haven’t seen them utilized the way I feel like they were Intended or atleast advertised. I’m beginning to wonder if using the clone as a bomb to take advantage of the vanilla anointments could give him the boost he needs to catch up with Amara and Fl4k in damage output, I would need a second opinion on that though as a Fl4k main. From what I’ve seen and heard his natural uptime can’t compete.
I woul like to add they fixed death follows closely so I’m sure more Zanes will be in the takedown soon.
kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#18
I don’t recommend doing Rough Rider with CCC. You lose out on Confident Confidence and Adrenaline with that shield now that they fixed it. I recommend instead getting a low capacity high recharge shield like Band of Sitorak. Some people use a low level Mendels Multi-Vitamin which is actually quite OP.
Hexxusz0r
(Resident inZane)
#19
okay buddy lemme explain then if you want to pick up donnybrook and synchonicity then you can not pick up playing dirty and violent violence if you want to pick these two then you can not pick the other ones. basically level 50 cap is trash especially for all arounder like zane none of the themes i have in my head can be achieved with current skill points and since m4 i can not play the theme i like either so i have to make a ■■■■■■ ass compromise just so i am able to deal with COV. which means hurr durr CCC so if i wanna stay in hitman playing dirty theme i have to give up spending even a single point in double agent, which means my main dmg source is violent momentum scaled of the speed i am carrying during a shot which is against high precision aiming yadi yadi yada
Hexxusz0r
(Resident inZane)
#20
you wanted to type lame instead of op there did not you ^^
Why low level? Capacity to recharge rate should stay in a similar relation. Low level stuff just makes sense for moze’s blood letter doesn’t it?
kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#22
Agreed, I find it lame and wouldn’t use it. Everyone has their own personal standards in a PVE game though. Some people crit swap, I don’t etc. I recommend the BOS, I don’t recommend the low lvl MV but I just mention it’s an option.
kabflash
(So many titles, so little impact. )
#23
Because it’s capacity will be in the 100’s and SNTL can instantly recharge it.
Sounds terrible, what about the quest reward that slows you when depleted and buffs you when full?
megadethwm
(Cults scare the sh*t out of me)
#25
Those aren’t the skills I used the build for, rough rider allows you to be a test moving health Regen beast and even tear through proving grounds with your barrier and drone out the whole time like nothing, atleast on mayhem 3. I don’t think the build will work the same on mayhem 4 without some major modifications being made, based off what I’ve seen from other operatives.
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megadethwm
(Cults scare the sh*t out of me)
#26
Well what do you want from him? If you don’t mind.
I mentioned rough rider earlier and people thought I was going for the broken build that got patched.
Hexxusz0r
(Resident inZane)
#27
i do not understand your question sir.
megadethwm
(Cults scare the sh*t out of me)
#28
You said you can’t make the themes or builds you can picture in your head for Zane, right? I know using 2 skills to their full capacity is off the table until level 60 but he can still do good.
I’m wondering what type of builds you can’t make that you would like to.