Zero... Fun... Sir

For a few weeks now it seems every match on PS4 I go into is always filled with people that either leave, afk constantly or disconnect before the match even starts. Thats not including the people that feed excessively at the start or completely ignore the lane objectives all together. And its not only my team; The winner of each match is determined by whos team is actually playing.

I really dont want to stop playing this game, i love the characters, the humor, and everything about it. But the PS4 community i seem to be grouped with… on both sides are making the game unplayable. Is the report feature being looked at? Are we going to see real penalties for these circumstances? The handful of friends i had that played have stopped for various reason and now im playing solo 90% of the time. I also joined a PS4 community for 3/4 of the groups that are playing dont want “random” people joining them.

Is anyone else having similar problems? It seems as though since I dont have a static group of friends to play with, Im stuck with this.

Please tell me there is something coming soon to help with this. @JoeKGBX @gRANT_ @Jythri

2 Likes

Same for me, refuse to go into PvP again unless it is all friends.
Still a fan of advanced PvE and am leveling each character, some are so much fun I feel bad for neglecting them :smile:

3 Likes

Hello.

I’m just a moderator, and do not represent Gearbox on the development aspect, but I am sorry to hear that you’re experiencing these issues.

There have been some to laud the aspects of the community, and others in your situation that have presented genuine and well articulated concerns.

I want to thank you for the detail of your inquiry/feedback.

While these details may not be pertinent, I still wish to ask a few questions for clarification so as to assist the developers in their review (which I assure you they do).

  1. Have you noticed that it is the same perpetrators of such issues? Or does it vary?
  2. Are the problems often in regards to poor sporting attitude (i.e. purposeful careless play, possible glitch exploitation etc.) or are they engage in otherwise abusive behavior?
  3. What hours do you most frequently play between (also list time zone if you’re comfortable).
  4. What modes do you most often play?

I apologize for the length and detail of these questions, but consider it kind of like a pre-diagnosis chart if you were at the doctor’s office.

The developers take these issues very seriously, and the more detail they have on the matter, the more pinpointed the answer can be.

2 Likes

Hi Giuvito,

First off, there is no need to apologize. Information is best used where there is more of it, and the fact that you took the time to explain everything is more appreciated than I could ever say. Thank you for your time!

to answer you:

  1. I can honestly say I have not noticed if its the same people, I could certainly go back through my match history and see. My guess would be its different people as i usually leave the Queue and reenter if people are doing that poorly as I hope for people who want to play through a full match.

  2. I think for the most part the people leaving are from poor sporting attitude; either they were doing poorly at the start, or that the other team is much more skilled/coordinated than ours. But again, its not always my team. The matches I have won during are usually that we do well at the start and then the opponents leave the game; which then results in a forfeit. I couldnt say whether its abusive behavior or not, as most people are not on mics so i could only speculate.

  3. I play mostly on weeknights after 9pm EST and occasionally Saturday/Sunday Afternoons if I can. (Like when the wifey is working :blush:) Today I was playing during the late morning and early afternoon as I was off from work the last 2 days.

  4. I originally preferred Incursion, but due to these issues if all 5 people arent working together, it usually proves pointless and the game snowballs far too quickly to be enjoyable. I have been playing a lot more Meldown lately as its a little more solo friendly, but people still leave or afk just as often it seems. Its just a lot easier to manage a 4 v 5 in that mode.

As a side not, I have been reporting people that leave matches, but there is no option for “Left Match Early” in that system, only “Often Idle” which I dont think is the same thing imho. Just a thought that it may be best to discuss another option in the reporting function.

Thanks again for checking in, let me know if theres anything i left out.

1 Like

Hey @quintus629

Thanks again for the level of detail in your reply.

Poor sporting behavior is always a challenge to deal with, as there is a bit of a Blackstone’s principle to it. Where dealing with those who are circumventing the rules must take in to account those who are innocent that may get swept aside.

Games with DNF% (such as many sports games with Did Not Finish as a marker) do not take in to account those who unfortunately suffer from bad connections to begin with.

I must say though, that reports such as yours, which detail the issue, have been instrumental in the past in finding a way to combat the problem.

While I am not privy to development procedure, my experiences in the past lead me to believe that adjustments will be made on these issues to regulate exploitation without a large collateral.

1 Like

This is definitely a question for some people and I actually addressed this briefly in a thread today:

Hope that helps!

1 Like

Well sir,

If you have a mic you can join me.

Same here dude. If you want to join me I’ll be on ps4. I don’t split on a loss mid match.

And you can also join me. More the merrier.

Can I also join sometime?

Indeed you can. My screen name is the same as here. Just add me.

1 Like

It most definitely needs some fixing as to properly rewarding players who finish matches and punishing players who surrender. It’s getting really, really old trying your hardest in a losing match and then either losing or having the enemy team surrender when you take the lead, and then the next match doing really well yourself and having the enemy team surrender as soon as they can. When the vast majority of matches are either losses or won by surrender it really makes you start to lose your love for the game. It’s also extremely obnoxious trying to finish lore that requires you to use your ult when nobody is willing to play the game long enough for you to get it.

Thanks for taking the time to reply Joe, its really nice to see that things like this are getting looked at. Even with all the other things you guys are working on. Love this game and the work you guys are doing, please keep listening to the community like you do.

I would love to join you guys, ill send out some invites; PSN is Tapionhighwind btw.

Just played a few hours today and I just cant tell if its the matchmaking system or what is going on. Maybe my “elo” (or whatever) is causing me to get matched with these players only now. People over-extending, never helping put pressure on the lane or work as a team; wandering away and letting the enemy demolish our minions. Its very frustrating when it always seems im in a pug against a coordinated 5 man and always getting punished for having to solo.

1 Like

Well Sirs (and Ladies),

@quintus629 @secrecy27 @Drklordnecro and whoever else is interested…

I posted on here some days ago. @Dr_H0H0 and myself were discussing a more efficient way of getting players together on ps4.

Here is the jist…

Add me on ps4 and I’ll add you to a message board on the ps4 message system to stream line things.

PLEASE HAVE A MIC

Edit: feel free to spread the word to any other like minded Sirs and…Lady Sirs😉

1 Like

Sounds good, just invite me to the message board.
And I have a mic.